I just found this on YouTube, check it out:
Happy Go Lucky Illuminati Symbolism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsy0QNa3K4
Also, this guy says he break masonic codes: http://www.letthetruthbeknown.com/
Check him out
I just found this on YouTube, check it out:
Happy Go Lucky Illuminati Symbolism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsy0QNa3K4
Also, this guy says he break masonic codes: http://www.letthetruthbeknown.com/
Check him out
Last edited by Arabian Knight; 12-13-2009 at 12:28 PM.
Hi elmoy and you are very welcome to join us here
Thanks for sharing and I am happy to see you here. It is very important for us to question Michael’s death because it was untimely and mysteriously happened. He is gone too soon.
What you said is very true. People should look at Michael also as a person not just as a celebrity and I remember in his Grammy (1993) acceptance speech he said “It is good to be thought of as a person not as a personality”.
I hope this will inspire people to search for the truth justice and freedom in the face of our true enemies. This global conspiracy has been carefully engineered to keep us blinded from the truth.
We need to open up on this idea more often. As long as we keep this respectful then we will be able to uncover a lot of mysteries. We love Michael and he said it himself “It is a conspiracy”, any real fan will respect his point of view and since it is “HIS” point of view it is part of him and worth discussing and analyzing.
It is great that we have respect to our right to share and seek knowledge together.
Thanks elmoy for visiting this thread
This is a wonderful thread.
Arabian Knight, Asedora, loveUmore, lotusflower and Steve Jones. You guys ROCK-especially you Arabian Knight and Asedora.
Thank you afrika for your kind words and I feel very honored and privileged to be able to share with you and to reach you even if you are very far away from here that’s why I am very thankful and blessed to have a friend like you, and all of you I would like to thank you as well for your understanding and tolerance to discuss this sensitive topic. God bless you all. Feel free to criticize me and to go against me whenever you want because this is one of the best ways for me to learn.Originally Posted by afrika
Hi everyone, this is a pretty informative thread here. I stumbled upon this thread from Youtube comments and decided to be involved.
First of all, good work! I am impressed to see the amount of time and energy spent to get facts. I would like to ask a few things though.
Okay I don't really know what or where to start. There are loads of information in the net and some of them even made me knit my eyebrows at the reliability of the infos.
First let me say that i am a huge fan of MJ, in fact I only listen to his songs these days. So when i bring forth something that is controversial or even directly contradicts Arabian Knight's theory, please don't think that I do this to diss MJ. All I want to know is to learn the truth. I need to have all base covered before I can say 'This is the truth'.
Okay, so to start off, MJ's song They Don't Care About Us:
There's a part where the lyric goes:
"But if Roosevelt was living.."
From this source, I learnt that Roosevelt is not exactly a good figure. In fact, he was secretly involving the United States in W.W. II.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bl...es/kennedy.htm <--- this source is the google results from searching '13 families of illuminati'
Why would MJ put him in the song if Roosevelt is...of questionable moral value? It's pretty safe to say that he's involved in Illuminati as well, judging from the way the article was written. When Martin Luther was brought up, I am surprised as well, but pleasantly surprised. I think MJ chose the right figure to be mentioned. But Roosevelt...?
Another thing will be the JFK. I agree that MJ put him there for that purpose. But upon reading the very same article, JFK doesn't seem like a honest man fighting off illuminati either. This baffles me.
One other thing I'd like to share is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfh4-GVltqA
MJ is a sacrifice for Illuminati? Summer Solstice Day?
Another thing to note is what I've just realized recently. MJ passed away on of June 2009. The supposedly 'doomsday' of the world theory is on December 2012.
It's exactly three and a half year.
Three and a half year has a significance in Christian's Bible.
Dan 7:25 'And he will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time [1 year], times [2 years], and half a time [1/2 year]. = [3-1/2 years]
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she might be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. [31/2 years]
Rev 12:14 And the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, in order that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.
I don't know what it means. I don't know whether it's just a coincidence or something else.
I'd like to share this with you people as well:
http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a
It's google cache because the original can't be found anymore.
And also take a look at this. I think this article is claiming MJ to be a sex slave when he's a kid hence he reached superstardom. This makes me a bit sick but can't help to wonder is there any truth in it?
http://www.isiswisdom.com/forum/topi...mment%3A115916
One thing i wonder as well. Why is this thread not being locked down, or the website closed, or whatever by Illuminati people? There are a lot of illuminati videos on Youtube as well. This can't be that they didn't know. I am not sure. There's something wrong, I can't pinpoint what.
Last edited by massel; 12-16-2009 at 10:50 AM.
Well, you can analyse until your blue in the face. In the end Michael is still dead and the Illuminati did it and there's no proof. "They" will get away with it like they've been getting away with all their dirty deeds for centuries.
I can't wait to get off this Earth Plain.
As far as the Roosevelt verse, I was wondering the same thing and concluded that at the time he wrote that song he probably thought like most of us that Roosevelt was a good guy. I found out about his evil connections only a couple years ago myself.
That's true, but that fact should not hinder us from finding out the truth. If we are more informed perhaps we can actually make a better judgement and such, maybe even preventing something evil to take place.
Yea that's what i thought too. Probably so.
What encourages me to allow this thread is the alarming coincidences and evidence supporting the existence of this conspiracy. Still people trying to find more tangible and direct evidence to prove this theory until the president himself should go out on the air and say “The term Illuminate exists – The secret societies exist and they have a hidden world agenda” and most probably that never gonna happen since JFK was killed. Thus we allow this discussion to be respectfully handled to speculate or prove such conspiracy theories since it is a given right to freedom of speech.
LOOOOL! Good one!
MJsMagic, welcome.
Well, IMO I think the Illuminati had planned to eliminate Michael before. This elaborate plan/ritual didn't come about just after the March announcement.
Me think it had been discussed when Michael was going on and on with the "conspiracy" thing. Also with the Unbreakable song, he was really p*ssing them off. So they decided to destroy him with the trial.
See, when these people execute one of their evil deed, It has to be entertaining, pleasurable and profitable to them because they're all sadistical at heart. It's like some sort of 4th of July celebration among their insiders. They're probably sitting around smoking a big fat cigar and sipping an expensive cognac watching the event unfold on TV. They're very cocky because they can't be caught. They've infiltrated the whole justice system from policemen to judges. They're the banking cartell that own the majority of powerful politicians. So when one gets caught he's often pardoned by the president shortly after.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cl...ns_controversy
http://www.slate.com/id/2204984/
So after they TKOed Michael, they thought he'd learned his lesson. When he started resurfacing like at the WMA 06 they probably kept an eye(no pun intented) on him and still had some sort of elimination plan on the back burner.
At the March 09 announcement and record ticket sale, it became obvious that he was as huge as ever.
I'm not 100% convinced that his death on June 25th solar solstice was planned but the 7/07 funeral viewed by the world during a lunar eclipse definitaly was a planned sacrifice ritual. An offering to their ruler.
To answer your question about what can we do? Not much, unless you're willing to become a vigilante and hunt them down.
I always tell my friend "Until we find a couple of'em at the Paulson and Bernanke level, maybe even higher like a Rockefeller or Rothschild type, hung from a tree on a public place for the whole world to see, with a sign around their necks saying "Illuminati we're coming after you", nothing will ever stop them.
Last edited by loveUmore; 12-18-2009 at 12:32 AM.
Hi massel, it is great to have you here thanks for joining us. I was posting the link to this thread on YouTube hoping to get more fans into this discussion.
I am not sure about Roosevelt I am still on my way to try to find out about him. When I was recently watching “Fall of the Republic” by Alex Jones, towards the middle of this video Roosevelt was mentioned and quoted saying “US presidents are selected not nominated” and based on that I want to dig deeper into Roosevelt’s history if I can find something reliable. Regarding JFK, his speech about secret societies was very direct and exposing, though I am not very sure about him or if someone wants to tarnish his image but that speech came out directly from his mouth and it was very revealing and perhaps it was enough for him to get killed because the illuminati is very secretive, note where he was assassinated, I think it was a masonic place according to some conspiracy theorists.
Also “loveUmore” highlighted similar issue in this thread and I am still trying to find out the links and leads to this event by studying Illuminati rituals and hidden sigils.
Thanks for sharing this point, the Illuminati have a thing with numbers and I am inspired by mathematical miracles in the holy books.
2012 has a lot of significance to the Illuminati for performing mega rituals as the sun completes its solar cycle which happens every 11 years: 1990 NWO announced, 2001 WTC attacks, 2012 (???)…
I believe just like there are evil forces in this world, there are also good forces, just like there is negative, there is positive, angels and devils, good and evil both coexist otherwise this world will have no meaning. I believe life is a test, a stepping stone on the way to heaven or hell. Religion gives you the power of consciousness to do good and that’s why the Illuminati wants us to believe there is no God. But God exists and gave us the greatest gift of all, the gift of choice. That’s why people are waking up and spreading the awareness. This is a battle between good and evil since the beginning of time. The Illuminati chosen to go against God and follow Satan in favor of fame, money, power, etc… and all of what the temporary material world offered to them by the devil through deception. The signs are out there we only have to look around and break free from mind control and psychological warfare. What scares the Illuminati the most is God’s will. Another thing is that they cannot change the rules of the universe. They know about Jesus return and they know about every religion. Despite that they decided to go against God and join the losers in this life being the devil followers on their own will believing that they can succeed with the devil promises but they won’t. How many people have lost their lives believing in this, believing in good against evil, Michael Jackson, Bob Marley, Mother Teresa, Ghandi, Malcom X, Diana, etc… There are many names we mentioned in this thread for people who are trying their best to get the truth out there, they want to leave a positive mark which could save lives and that itself a cause which is worth fighting for.
I believe with all my heart Mj was referring the other Martin Luther, the one that wrote ""the Jews and Their Lies""We all know Roosevelt was also against them and mj used that an example.
Nearly All of Amerca's Presidents Have Been Members of Satan Worshipping Cults
1789-1797 George Washington, 1st. President of the United States Confirmed Mason
1801-1809 Thomas Jefferson, 3rd. President of the United States, Confirmed Illuminati & Mason.
1809-1817 James Madison, 4th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1817-1825 James Monroe, 5th. President of the United states, Confirmed Mason.
1829-1837 Andrew Jackson, 7th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1837-1841 Martin Van Buren, 8th. President of the United States,Confirmed Mason.
1841-1845 John Tyler, 10th. President of The United States (Whig) after the death of William H. Harrison. Confirmed Mason.
1845-1849 James K. Polk, 11th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1849-1850 Zachary Taylor, 12th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1853-1857 Franklin Pierce, 14th. President of the United states,Confirmed Mason.
1857-1861 James Buchanan, 15th. President of the United States (D) Confirmed Mason.
1865-1869 Andrew Johnson, 17th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1881 James A. Garfield, 20th. President of The United States, Confirmed Mason.
1885-1889 Grover Cleveland, 22nd. President of the United States, Illuminati Puppet.
1897-1901 William McKinley, 25th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1901-1909 Theodore Roosevelt, 26th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1909-1913 William Howard Taft, 27th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1921-1923 Warren G. Harding, 29th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1933-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason and Illuminati Puppet.
1945-1953 Harry S. Truman, 33rd. President of The United States, Confirmed Mason.
1961-1963 John F. Kennedy, 35th. President of the United States , Confirmed Illuminati.
1963-1969 Lyndon B. Johnson, 36th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1974-1977 Gerald Ford. 38th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1981-1989 Ronald Reagan, 40th. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1989-1993 George H. W. Bush, 41st. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
1993-2000 William Clinton, 42nd. President of the United States, Confirmed Mason.
2000 - presentGeorge W. Bush, 43rd. President of the United states, Confirmed "Order of Skull & Bones"
Off topic...Arabian knight, I couldn’t help noticing when you mentioned Sammy Sosa. I have never heard Sammy Sosa before, therefore I went to search who he is. On the contrary I found out this.LOL
Before
After
That man used hair bleach to bleach his skin in order to become white, how ever in two weeks he went back to his original colour, which was black and the media felt to mention that. It’s very difficult to lightening the ears, hands and feet. You see how he always hides his hands and look at his ears. You can’t bleach that.
I used to have friends who loved to bleach themselves to death, it was kind sad. I felt sorry for them.
I found this post while searching MJ lyrics in Google. I must say its good read and make sense. I thought I'll shared it with you.
They made up all these allegations, made up gay rumors, made up overdose rumors, hired publicists to talk badly about him, drowned him to debt so Michael jackson would give up selling the Beatles catalogs, they were using black people so it would looked like the black are jealous to each other, , they hired different doctors to confused his health conditions, they hired publicists to mock him , they hired Ian Helperin to collaborate the plan, they hired Martin Bashir to disguise his nice friendship with Michael, they took a video inside his house to show all his weaknesses, they criticized him and accused him of molestation, they used Martin Bashir ’s brother to gain access Michael Jackson’s Neverland, they took a video around his house and told the whole world that he was a childlike attitudes, they sensationalized him having a dolls, mannequins around the house, they used his childhood as their scapegoat and told the whole world how bad was his family, they hired different doctors to collaborate their plans, they hired Dr, Conrad Murray to collaborate their plan, and they paid the media to hammered Michael s whereabouts and made up stories about him taking drugs, they forced him to signed a contract that they can control his business, they insured him for big amount of insurance,, at the same time Murray’s he’s doing his part, the media was hammering him maliciously, the media was attacking Michael’s family especially his father, they tried to complicate the whole motive so the fans around the world would think that Michael was a bad person, they collaboated Ton barrack for his neverland, his accountant defrauded his bank account, etc, etc, This whole thing was made up and killed Michael Jackson so they can control of his music publishing company, and I understand that the Beatles Catalog was also doing their part, all his lawyers , doctors, accountant, friends in business were not in Michael Jackson’s side . They made him confused and hired this Murray to killed him slowly, You are right Ian Helperin, They killed Him for his business and you too collaborated with them and this is the biggest conspiracy in USA history and SHAME ALL OF YOU and believe it or not, YOU WILL NEVER HAPPY in your whole life. I think you all desperate to have Michael Jackson’s business but I’m telling you -ALL THE FANS ARE TIRED OF ALL YOUR TACTICS
Ok guys. There is a video about another "friend" Uri Geller. This person was involved with very serious experiments during Cold War. This video proves this fact.
I cannot imagine what kind of brain manipulations Geller did controlling Michael.
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