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    Yes Janena and Steve, you're absolutely right. There's is NO coincidence when it comes to Illuminati. When you know their M.O. it becomes obvious. These people are sadisticly cocky. They are actually announcing their agenda everywhere if you know where and what to look for. Like 9/11, their grandest "shock and awe" event to date was known by many and even advertised on their 2001 printed $20 dollar bill. A couple months after 9/11 my husband came back from playing golf and said "you wouldn't believe what I heard today. Apparently 9/11 was all planned by some group called Illuminati and they even printed it on their money. Look if you fold this 20 dollar bill in some star shape you can see the twin towers just after the attack with the smoke coming out where the planes hit."
    I went " WUT? Have you lost your mind?" So we proceded to fold every newer $20 we could find and he was right. That blew my mind and set me off on a search for the truth that is still ongoing.

    BTW, last night AMA probably made Michael turn in his grave; Putting him side by side with Eminem and his devilish eyes made me sick. I had the sound muted and wasn't watching much. I stopped watching most TV a while back.

    Want to add to my previous post about the Brooking Institute event I worked last Friday; when my friend and I were discussing it in the side room, this other server that I tried to awaken a while back by emailing him videos, ask us; "Are you guys talking about that movie about 12/21/2012?"
    My friend who has this great dark sense of humor responds "Hell no. 2012 is the GOOD news. We're talking about this Brooking Institute that's one of the Illuminati Think Tank."
    He goes "WUUUTTTT? What are you guys talking about?" I chimed in; Don't you know that Sheila is a CFR member? That's why we get all that Illuminati business here. Why do you think they changed the way we set our votive candles on our table set. We used to put two candles on each side of the sugar bowls and since she took over we have to set three candles in a triangle shape pointing toward the stage like their pyramid symbol. You know the one on their money? Then I go "Never mind, you can't handle the truth, you never watched the videos I sent ya."

    Anyway, about 12/21/2012, I don't think this is Illuminati related. It's a Universal event provoked by some precise planetary alignement that happened before that many scientists and researchers are still debating. But I'm sure the Iluminati will try to conter act it somehow as they don't want to be wiped out. Hopefully they won't be successful. This planet needs to be wiped out of all Evils. It's the only way. Be at peace with it. The Afterlife is perfect. We'll be reunited with our loved ones including Michael. I can't wait.

    I have a lot of questions about Michael's symbols that I will post later.
    Thanks
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    WOW! First time I see this. Talk about a punch in the mouth of Illuminati TV. That's what it looks like at first glance but it could be a ploy to collect extra fees from MJ fans. When was this made? And did Michael really supported them?

    http://www.tackfilm.se/en/?id=1259445159468RA97&q=low

    Can this be downloaded? We need to save this to our computers.

    UPDATE
    Sorry I got excited without doing further research. Apparently it's fan made. You can insert any photos and the commercial says the same thing. It's still worthwhile if it's used only to awaken MJ fans to the evils of Illuminati TV without the "pay your fees" thing at the end.
    Maybe someone here can edit it for our own message.
    Last edited by loveUmore; 12-01-2009 at 03:16 PM.

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    Just wanted to bring this up. If I'm not mistaken this was done after all his conspiracy speeches from what 2002-2003 right?
    Starting at 2:25 and at 2:41 in this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQwY4ll1Kfc&NR=1
    if you up the volume you can clearly hear when Michael says" it's a conspiracy" one of Michael's handlers saying something like "Hold it, hold it" like telling him "Don't even go there!"
    Just to prove how controled/threatened he was.
    Last edited by loveUmore; 12-01-2009 at 04:16 PM.

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    well spotted loveumore, he does say something to warn michael off going further into what was the conspiracy

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    Default So what can we do? MJ was murdered and theyr'e getting away with it like always.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arabian Knight View Post
    You know that Bob Marley made a lot of statements in his songs. Michael Jackson made a lot of statements in his songs. Both are dead mysteriously. Isn’t that enough motive to make you want to find the truth? I believe yes and there must be a conspiracy.
    So we know what is going on. What are we going to do about it? They probably did have a hand in Michael's death. If you remember right after MJ died a story was reported that an employee heard Michael and someone on the phone in a heated arguement saying he did not want to go through with the shows. Things were not ready and they ahd already postponed the shows. If he was refusing to do the shows millions would be lost. I know other people remember this story and then it just disappeared and wasn't mentioned again. The doctor was a freemason so he would be the perfect man for the job. He talked to 3 people that night and one just happened to be on a cell phone that couldn't be traced probably giving the order for him to get rid of Michael. A lethal amount of propofol was in his system which is more than the 25ml the doctor claimed to have given. He is a trained doctor. I don't think for a second that this was an accident. It was what Michael had feared for years, that he would be killed. So what can we do? Any ideas?

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    Important video to save

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    Just found other articles of interest relating the conspiracy to destroy MJ
    and links to the Illuminati
    http://tinyurl.com/2aya59h

    Staving Off Financial Disaster

    Lavish Expenses, Legal Bills
    Could Force Asset Sale;
    Lots of Conflicting Advice

    Jesse Jackson Makes a Pitch

    By ETHAN SMITH and KATE KELLY
    Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
    June 8, 2005; Page A1

    In the glare of a Santa Maria, Calif., courtroom, pop singer Michael Jackson has been fending off criminal charges of child molestation that threaten his career and his freedom. Behind the scenes, the 46-year-old entertainer is embroiled in an equally critical battle over the future of his financial assets.

    Mr. Jackson's other crisis is centered on a seemingly simple question. To escape at least $270 million in debt amassed in support of his unusual lifestyle, should Mr. Jackson sell his stake in a coveted music-publishing catalog?

    The answer has not come easily. Mr. Jackson is surrounded by an ever-changing cast of characters, making it difficult to determine who, if anyone, is in charge of his business affairs. One camp has urged Mr. Jackson to sell some of his holding to avert financial disaster. Another group -- which includes supermarket billionaire Ron Burkle -- says such drastic action is unnecessary. More recently, the Rev. Jesse Jackson has emerged as an outspoken advocate for the singer and has personally interceded on his behalf with bank officials.
    Meanwhile, according to a person close to the singer, Mr. Jackson's cash reserves ran so low earlier this year that he worried about paying his electric bill.

    After two months of backstage maneuvering, Mr. Jackson is, as usual, in an odd spot. The financial fate of the former King of Pop now rests in the hands of a New York-based investment firm that invests in distressed debt. Last month, Fortress Investment Group LLC bought Mr. Jackson's loans outstanding from their holder, Bank of America Corp.

    In a written statement, Jackson spokeswoman Raymone K. Bain said the agreement with Fortress "will provide greater financial strength and flexibility for Mr. Jackson."

    The story of how Mr. Jackson was pushed to the brink of financial disaster is another strange turn for a performer whose 40 years in the public spotlight are filled with many such moments. After a series of high-profile incidents -- from settling a previous allegation of sexual abuse to being pictured dangling his infant son from a hotel balcony -- the singer finally wore out his welcome with the public. As his popularity plunged, Mr. Jackson used loans to compensate for declining income from record sales and concert tours.

    The singer shells out more than $1.5 million a month in overhead costs, according to a person familiar with his finances. At the Neverland ranch in California -- named for the fantasy world in J. M. Barrie's "Peter Pan" -- Mr. Jackson spends thousands of dollars to maintain his menagerie of zoo animals, according to documents filed in a lawsuit unrelated to the criminal case and the current financial mess.

    Mr. Jackson's financial affairs tumbled into disarray in early April when Bank of America notified him that he was in default on part of the loans. The notice set off a furious debate over his most valuable asset: a 50% stake in Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, an entity that owns and administers copyrights to thousands of songs, including the words and music to 251 Beatles tunes. The catalog, which Mr. Jackson co-owns with Sony Corp., was pledged as collateral for some of the loan portfolio.


    Even in the depressed music industry, catalogs are prized for the steady revenue they generate from public performances and other licensing fees. Sony/ATV is particularly valuable because it controls famous Beatles compositions such as "Yesterday" and "Hey Jude" and is valued by people who have recently looked at the company at more than $1 billion. Mr. Jackson could resolve his debt crisis by shedding all or part of his stake.

    This spring, that's exactly what some of his closest advisers were urging. The group included longtime associates such as entertainment attorney John G. Branca, veteran music-industry executive Charles A. Koppelman and Miami attorney Alvin I. Malnik. A long list of buyers has expressed interest in the business, according to several people involved with the matter. Sony itself has had its eye on Mr. Jackson's stake for years and ex-Beatle Paul McCartney has closely followed the company's history, according to a person close to him.

    Even after the sale to Fortress, which forestalled a bigger financial crisis, these advisers continued to urge the singer to sell. They are worried about an estimated $10 million legal tab in the criminal case and a possible bankruptcy filing.

    To his advisers, Mr. Jackson has expressed an emotional tie to the Sony/ATV asset -- he bought it partly out of love for the Beatles -- and has resisted that advice. Instead, he turned to a longtime friend, Mr. Burkle. As managing partner of closely held Yucaipa Cos. LLC, a private investment firm, Mr. Burkle has little music-industry experience.

    According to Jesse Jackson, who has allied himself with Mr. Burkle, the billionaire adviser agreed to analyze the situation. Mr. Burkle has told the singer the debt crunch could be resolved in a way that would avoid a sale, according to a person close to Mr. Burkle.

    Unknown is the current inclination of Mr. Jackson himself, who seems ill-prepared these days to make the call. In the past week, he has checked into a hospital twice and barricaded himself inside his ranch. There he awaits a verdict in the criminal case.

    The son of a steel-mill worker from Gary, Ind., Michael Jackson became a quasi-professional pop singer at the age of 4 thanks to the efforts of his father, Joe. Teamed with four elder brothers in the Jackson 5, little Michael quickly became the star with his good looks, dance moves and preternaturally assured vocals. The group topped the charts with hits such as "ABC."

    Mr. Jackson went solo in 1979 and quickly became one of the biggest pop stars in the world. His album "Thriller" spawned giant hits like "Beat It" and "Billie Jean." In the U.S., it has shipped more than 26 million units, according to the Recording Industry Association of America, making it the second-biggest selling album ever, after "Their Greatest Hits: 1971-1975," a record by the Eagles.

    Even during Mr. Jackson's heady years, strange reports surfaced about his friendships with a chimpanzee named Bubbles and child stars a fraction of his age. Mr. Jackson hid behind surgical masks or umbrellas as his personal appearance grew increasingly odd. His dark skin paled and his sculpted facial features were increasingly unrecognizable as those of the boy who won pop fans' hearts.

    Amid the tabloid fodder, Mr. Jackson made a canny business move. In 1985, after a protracted bidding process, he bought ATV Music Publishing for $47.5 million from Australian businessman Robert Holmes a Court. A decade later, with his music career in decline, Mr. Jackson needed cash. In 1995 he entered into a complex partnership with Sony to merge ATV with the Japanese company's modest library of songs. Sony already owned Mr. Jackson's record label, Epic Records.

    Sony paid Mr. Jackson $150 million, according to one person close to the transaction, and the electronics giant took operational control, according to several people familiar with the arrangement. Mr. Jackson became a 50% owner of the newly created Sony/ATV.

    Sony/ATV's structure grants Mr. Jackson veto power over key executive appointments and new acquisitions, say people familiar with the deal. The contract also grants both partners the right to counter any offer to buy out the other side. In addition, these people say, contractual provisions allow either party to bid for the half it doesn't Corp., seeking $12 million in unpaid fees and expenses, he began to borrow large sums of money. By 1998, documents show, loans totaling $90 million from NationsBank Corp. were nearly exhausted. NationsBank merged with BankAmerica Corp. in 1998, and the newly combined company renamed itself Bank of America Corp. Mr. Jackson later sought additional capital from Bank of America.

    By 2000, Mr. Jackson was on the hook for $270 million. Some of the debt was secured by Mr. Jackson's stake in Sony/ATV. Other loans were backed by Neverland and Mijac, a separate music-publishing firm that owns Mr. Jackson's compositions, among others.

    According to the court documents, the debt supported a decidedly unconventional lifestyle. Expenses listed at the time included food for Neverland's animals, limousine rentals, costumes and $1.15 million in payments to "Debbie," a probable reference to Mr. Jackson's ex-wife, Debbie Rowe.

    "Michael Jackson was -- and is -- a ticking financial timebomb, waiting to explode at any moment," Union Finance said in its suit.

    In recent years, Mr. Jackson's financial situation worsened as his behavior grew more erratic. In 2002, he launched a public diatribe against then-Sony Music chief Thomas D. Mottola, calling him, "very, very, very devilish."

    Attempts by some to steer the singer out of trouble were hampered by disagreements among the rotating cast of advisers. Among them was Mr. Branca, 54, a well-established Los Angeles music attorney whose clients include Aerosmith, Fleetwood Mac and Nelly. Mr. Branca, who has been involved with Mr. Jackson, on and off, since the early 1980s, owns a small stake in Sony/ATV, tied to Mr. Jackson's ownership, and negotiated most of the major contracts involved in the current struggle. For long stretches, he has found himself cut out of Mr. Jackson's affairs.

    Also involved is Mr. Malnik, a 71-year-old Miami lawyer, who in 1980 was barred from entering casinos in New Jersey because of alleged organized-crime connections, which Mr. Malnik has previously denied. He could not be reached for comment. Mr. Malnik befriended Mr. Jackson several years ago, according to people who know them. The two men spent a weekend in Mexico with "Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner to celebrate Mr. Ratner's birthday, the director recalls.

    Mr. Malnik brought in Mr. Koppelman, a storied figure in music publishing who is also vice chairman of Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia Inc. Mr. Koppelman, 65, came on board about two years ago to advise Mr. Jackson on his publishing holdings and other business matters. In an unusual twist, people close to the singer say the Bank of America loan package included a covenant requiring Mr. Koppelman be retained as a consultant. (Mr. Koppelman was also Mr. Jackson's chief rival in bidding for the ATV catalog 20 years ago.)

    According to several people familiar with their thinking, all three of these men favored selling at least a portion of Sony/ATV to salvage Mr. Jackson's finances.

    Early this year, a variety of possible deals were served up to the pop singer. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and private-equity firm Blackstone Group expressed interest, according to people close to these discussions. Before acquiring Mr. Jackson's debt portfolio, investment firm Fortress also discussed buying at least some of Mr. Jackson's holdings, say people familiar with the discussions.

    Messrs. Branca and Koppelman urged Mr. Jackson to accept the Goldman Sachs deal, people familiar with the matter say, which would have introduced Goldman as a third partner in the Sony/ATV venture. Mr. Jackson would have been left with a stake in his beloved publishing company and no debts.

    But even as the criminal trial began in late February, Mr. Jackson continued to resist, partly on the grounds that publishing rights are always more valuable in the long run.

    In early April, Bank of America lowered the boom. According to one person close to the Jackson camp, Mr. Jackson fell short of a scheduled payment by about $300,000. Other people close to the matter say Mr. Jackson had been in violation of his loan agreement for some time.

    Bank of America officials found themselves inundated with pleas from the singer's advocates. Willie Gary, a prominent Florida litigator who has been retained by the singer, says he contacted the bank on Mr. Jackson's behalf. Mr. Burkle, the supermarket magnate, also contacted Bank of America officials and urged them to allow Mr. Jackson to make good on his missed payment before throwing the entire loan package into default. The advisers brought in a Los Angeles bankruptcy lawyer to cover a worst-case scenario.

    In early April, Rev. Jackson called Kenneth Lewis, the chairman and CEO of Bank of America, to lobbyon behalf of the singer. Mr. Lewis declined to discuss the matter, recalls Rev. Jackson, on the grounds that the bank's relationship with the singer is confidential.

    In an interview, Rev. Jackson says it was "a gross injustice" that the singer might have to sell his assets because of the shortfall. "Michael had a cashflow problem because he's not been working and he's on trial," Rev. Jackson says. "But his assets are greater than his debts."

    Amid mounting pressure, Bank of America walked away from the situation without providing an explanation. The bank notified Mr. Jackson, via fax, it was selling the loan package to Fortress.

    Founded in 1998, Fortress says it has about $15 billion in equity capital under management. The firm has a toe in the private-equity and hedge-fund worlds and also invests in distressed debt. It counts as investors pension funds and wealthy individuals. The firm bought the loans at face value, people involved in the matter said. Funds sometimes buy debt at a discount to compensate for any risk.

    The firm has extended the loan beyond its original December due date, say people familiar with the matter, and has extended additional credit to Mr. Jackson.

    Even if Mr. Jackson is acquitted and the problems with his debt resolved, his financial future will remain clouded. To get back on track, he would need to curb spending or again earn income as a performer -- goals that have proved elusive in the past. In addition, according to Rev. Jackson, the singer believes the men advising him "were in fact conspiring to take his holdings and that's what triggered this avalanche of challenges."
    If the jury votes to convict, these questions may be moot. People close to Mr. Jackson on both sides of the debate say a conviction would likely trigger the sale of most if not all of his remaining assets, including Neverland, the Sony/ATV stake and the Mijac catalog. After listening to the 13-week trial, the jury has been deliberating since last Friday.

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    Note than in the previous pages of this thread we showed that The Blackstone Group has been founded by Rothschild (Illuminati family)
    and also discussed how Henri (Hank) Paulson longtime CEO of Goldman Sacks, another major Illuminati player and mastermind of the controversial Banks Bailout by non-willing taxpayers not too long ago.

    Like Michael said on occasion; "There's conspiracy all around me"
    Last edited by loveUmore; 08-30-2010 at 03:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janena View Post
    Thank you for bringing the discussion here...

    Ive been reading into several lyrics last night of both Bob Marley (babylon system, rat race,could you be loved) and Michael and read a bit into Bob's death...
    Found out he ended up in a german clinic with a doctor associated with the nazi-regime back in worldwar II....part of the treatment was not-eating.
    Bob's mother tried to get him away from there but there were a lot of fake friends surroudning him in his last months that were prefenting his mom to interfere as they would benefit from his death...

    Sound familiar?
    You got me there. I've been reading about the Illuminati for the past months now and some of the things that were pointed out by Arabian knight are new to me. At the same time, There are sooo Many clues that leads me to believe that everything that i've read about them Is indeed true. I thought it was just a made up stuff but i've done some reading and watched some videos...and i've also watched the movie *Angels and Demons* starring Tom Hanks...I dont really know what to make of that...but there was another Movie that actually showed the real Illuminati trying to sway the world. I dont know if the title is "LEFT BEHIND"...EVERYONE Should watch it! There is part one and part two to it!!!!
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    It seems that the dark forces got to Mr Riley. He recently did a damage control interview in rebuttal to this article (see below). You can see how uncomfortable he looks. He can't sit still. Or am I imagining this?


    Teddy Riley: ‘I Never Said’ Michael Jackson Was Murdered http://tinyurl.com/ya8waa3




    Net 'closing in on Jackson murderer' http://tinyurl.com/y8rcn9q

    MICHAEL Jackson was murdered and his killer will be caught soon, one of his closest friends in showbusiness says.

    Teddy Riley, co-producer of Jackson's multi-platinum Dangerous album and founding member of R&B band Blackstreet, says he and Jackson's family are confident they know who the pop artist's killer is and that they will be caught soon.

    Blackstreet are in Australia as VIP guests for Wednesday's world premiere of the film about Jackson's life, This Is It.

    Asked if Jackson was murdered, Riley told AAP: "I said that the first day.

    "I called the family and I said listen, 'He was murdered'.

    "Somebody didn't like something he said or something he's doing or didn't want him to go to the top so they had to get rid of him."

    Riley worked extensively with Jackson over the last 18 years and counted himself a close personal friend.

    Blackstreet co-founder Chauncey Hannibal agrees the singer was murdered.

    Jackson's family have accused those close to the singer of murdering him and the Los Angeles County coroner has ruled Jackson's death was a homicide caused primarily by Propofol and another sedative.

    Riley and Hannibal saw Jackson two days before he died on June 26, in rehearsal for his planned comeback sell-out tour in London.

    Riley said Jackson was in "great health" just prior to his death but admitted he did suffer some pain because of his skin.

    Asked who killed the singer, Riley replied: "You're going to find out.

    "We've got so many people we think it could be. It's going to come out.

    "He was doing so great at his rehearsals. I was over at the studio two days before ... two days later he was gone.

    "He was in great health. Only thing that bothered him is he gets in pain. When he works hard, he gets home, he's in pain because of his skin. Other than that he was in great shape."

    Riley said no current artist would ever enjoy the iconic status achieved by Jackson.

    "(His death) has definitely affected us really badly, our whole family, we still think he's here, people think Elvis still lives, well Michael Jackson lives on in a lot of people's hearts."
    Last edited by Steve Jones; 12-31-2009 at 12:52 PM. Reason: Embedded Teddy Riley's video

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    Who knew being a scientist was a dangerous profession?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveUmore View Post
    It seems that the dark forces got to Mr Riley. He recently did a damage control interview in rebuttal of this article (see below). You can see how uncomfortable he looks. He can't sit still. Or am I imagining this?
    Thanks for bringing the Teddy Riley story which reminded me to imported some of the old topics from the old site, I’ll post this update on the imported thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthlyme View Post
    You got me there. I've been reading about the Illuminati for the past months now and some of the things that were pointed out by Arabian knight are new to me. At the same time, There are sooo Many clues that leads me to believe that everything that i've read about them Is indeed true. I thought it was just a made up stuff but i've done some reading and watched some videos...and i've also watched the movie *Angels and Demons* starring Tom Hanks...I dont really know what to make of that...but there was another Movie that actually showed the real Illuminati trying to sway the world. I dont know if the title is "LEFT BEHIND"...EVERYONE Should watch it! There is part one and part two to it!!!!
    earthlyme it is great to see you here and thanks for sharing!

    Have you seen the recent movie “Jennifer's Body” there is a clip in the movie where the band wanted to perform a ritual on Jennifer near a mysterious water hole. This is an example of Illuminati ritual for spilling blood on a specific ground to open portals to summon demons, then later Jennifer emerged as a demon. This is a very basic idea or glimpses into their secrets and notice the lead singer said “Satan is our only hope”… This is how they get fame and money… I found this clip here. There are lots of movies about them.

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    Thanks for reminding me of Teddy Riley, I was actually surprised that people did put their head above the paraphet in MJ death, there was Joe, La Toya and Teddy and I think someone else, I can't remember who now.

    I did notice though they all went quiet after the kids had that car accident 2 days after Randy was going to the media about the will being fake and MJ was not in LA when it was signed but NY campaiging against Sony and Mottola, and La Toya who had been very vocal about MJ murder said she felt her life was in danger and 2 days later after both these statements, the kids had an accident in the car, of course the official line was it was paparazzi but I think it was a warning and none of them have spoken of MJ murder since.
    Last edited by lotusflower; 12-24-2009 at 08:18 AM.

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    Very good point Lotusflower.

    Did you hear Teddy says in that interview "I had to do this interview to clear my name" What a pussy wussy.

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